Stricter rules

[Eioncmnm]

There's a big difference between mild childhood embarrassment stories (like being seen naked by family as a kid) and detailed sexual stories involving minors (forced stripping, sexual acts, rape fantasies with 10-16 year olds). The latter is not acceptable and is likely illegal CSAM. Can we please remove or move the graphic underage sexual content and keep the forum 18+ for anything erotic?

[StreakingFan06]

I for one agree with you, I have seen similar forums that ended up being destroyed because people got too lax on what was allowed so you had people posting blatantly erotic stories about kids. And like you said not "oops I got seen naked when I was 9" but like actual, sexually explicit stories.

[Nikolai]

I've been away from the site for some time because of the board going from embarrassing/humiliation stripping stories with UA which makes sense to some of the story/plot lines or what have you, to like a really uncomfortable place to be, and the way I see it, if that's the abundance of authors currently and they're getting praise from commenters, then maybe this isn't the place for me to write or the audience I wish to have.

There's a number of other things that have got in the way of writing but every time I give this place a chance I leave uncomfortable without the stories I was looking for

[Britguy]

The latter is not acceptable

Don't accept it then, nobody is forcing you to read it.

the way I see it, if that's the abundance of authors currently and they're getting praise from commenters, then maybe this isn't the place for me

Hear, hear. If you don't like it go elsewhere. Eloncmnm might prefer the Authoritarian section of Nifty if his story (about a coach raping a student!) is anything to go by.

[Eioncmnm]

The latter is not acceptable

Don't accept it then, nobody is forcing you to read it.

the way I see it, if that's the abundance of authors currently and they're getting praise from commenters, then maybe this isn't the place for me

Hear, hear. If you don't like it go elsewhere. Eloncmnm might prefer the Authoritarian section of Nifty if his story (about a coach raping a student!) is anything to go by.

im not against any adult kinks. My only issue is stories involving minors (under 18). That’s pedophilic content when it’s sexual. Simple as that. If that makes people mad, that says more about them than me.

[Executionus]

A couple comments I'll make on this, starting with just saying that no form of written erotica is actually illegal (no matter how niche, graphic, or twisted). Asstr has been up for decades and things like snuff erotica exists.

Beyond that, the majority of stories that I've seen tend to keep sexual contact within age ranges (adults on adults, teens on teens). It's an unwritten rule but generally a popular one to avoid ickiness. That said, pretending teenagers aren't sexual at all is naive. Teenagers are horny little things with one-another in real life which is why half the girls I know lost their virginities at 12-16 with a fellow minor. It's just the way it is.

Lastly, this is a genre which usually centers on the awkward period of high school since adults lose most of their embarrassment over nudity really quickly once they get involved in sexual relationships more often and they escape the social drama aspect of school. It's why half of the stories in the community involve some connection to Naked in School.

So yeah, there needs to be a general reduction in explicit minor content, but at the same time schoolboys and schoolgirls seeing and messing with each other is a huge chunk of the ENF/ENM genre itself and always has been. Might be a good idea to add tags for 18+ and 17- to identify cast age ranges on sight.

[Nikolai]

I feel like my comment wasnt read clearly, as Executious said its natural that ua would happen in regards to making some stories make since for embarrassment/awkwardness what have you

The difference to me is when you largely stop seeing the main theme the board draws on, stripping/pantsing enf based stories, and just ends up being a bunch of ua elements without the central theme of the board, like the board is being used in ways that was never intended. There's always been stories that have a bit of ick to someone, or that aren't for everyone, but without the general theme of embarrassment/humiliation/stripping making sense more in a ua element, it dissolves to alot of just general ua stories and and thats less idk im far from the person to draw a morale line as ive been more cruel to my characters than most, but the theme was always the main point of any of my stories. The ua being central or the main plot and barely having stripping/pantsing elements just feels offputting to an extent

I think the reason this has come to happen is the old forums were "stripping/pantsing" mainly in title, and even this forum "spns" keeps that legacy, but some making it a general ua enf thing without the stripping/pantsing because enf is now in the general forums titles, is off putting to me, which again is just an opinion and nothing for anyone to me offended on.

I agree with executionus but there's many stories in the past couple years that lack the main elements from before, that the ua was there to make the story make sense , and now just have alot of general ua without the theme to make it not just a ua fantasy

[Executionus]

Yeah I generally have little interest in stories that don't involve stripping/pantsing or at least some significant ENF/ENM energy to them, and have no real interest in a lot of the random permanude stories, exhibitionism stories, or the odd random-abuse ones. That said, a lot of people here clearly enjoy the permanude stuff and all that so I just choose to ignore the things I'm not into. The tag system should really make a difference over time.