Girls in boys locker room

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When I was around 14 I visited a pool with my friend that had the most ridiculous shower room design - you walked through the men's shower room to get to the women's.

I wonder whether this could have been an older pool in an area where the men (at least) used to always swim nude. I also wonder whether that had originally been one larger shower area that was later partitioned, either because the pool was originally single-gendered or because the other set of showers had a catastrophic plumbing problem and this was a hack to keep the facility open.

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When I was around 14 I visited a pool with my friend that had the most ridiculous shower room design - you walked through the men's shower room to get to the women's.

I wonder whether this could have been an older pool in an area where the men (at least) used to always swim nude. I also wonder whether that had originally been one larger shower area that was later partitioned, either because the pool was originally single-gendered or because the other set of showers had a catastrophic plumbing problem and this was a hack to keep the facility open.

I don't think the facility was old enough for any of those things to be true. I believe it was simply a case of "overzealous architect wants to make a unique building layout"

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I found this on reddit. So this practice was still going on even into the 2000s, even after all the publicity about Title IX and privacy rights violations. Unbelievalbe. But it's nice to see this woman recognizing the harmfulness of the situation.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueOffMyChest ... r_room_in/?

I (female) was allowed in the boys locker room in high school

I (currently 35f) attended high school and volunteered for the football team as the “football manager.” The title was different from the “water girls” because I didn’t just deal with water, but helped the coach do other things, wash game day laundry (at the school by myself on a Saturday), help organize the equipment locker room, ensure the players had their proper equipment (pads, helmets, etc), make sure players followed up with our first aid coach and iced/dealt with any injuries. I make the distinction in roles because the head coach was adamant that there were only two football managers (me and another girl) who could go through the locker room, but not the water girls. In fact he expressly told me that one particular water girl was NOT allowed in the locker room even when handing out equipment, and no shame to her but she was very very boy focused. This was a relatively new high school so some rules just weren’t established. I grew close to all the coaches and would sometimes help them with tasks they needed help with for their classes. And this wasn’t limited to just the football coaches but a track and basketball coach as well, because not only did I do all that and more, I also took a weight lifting class that was almost exclusively taken by athletes. Anyways there is something that’s bothered me for years and only now do I fully recognize the implications of it. The time frame for this story was between 2005-2008, and I was dating one of the football players and I believe that, and my maturity level was a big reason I was allowed so much “freedom”.

The equipment room for everything was through the boys locker room, also inside of the locker room was a generic coach’s office. So between needing to unlock the door to the equipment room from the inside (to bring in the water jugs each day before and after practice), dealing with equipment, and discussing things with coaches I was in the boys locker room on at least a weekly but most often a daily basis. I never cared about what I saw in the locker room, mostly because I was dating one of the players and outside of one player who was unbelievably cocky most of the guys saw me as a sister and didn’t make comments. I did see my fair share of semi-naked, and naked teenage boys, a lot of that towel thing where you snap it at another person, and I heard tons of very teenage boy stuff, but again I was very focused on the task I was doing and only had eyes for my boyfriend.

However, I now recognize how irresponsible that was of the coaching staff, it put an entire team (60+) of football players, plus players of other sports in such an awkward situation. I think back now and wonder if (but can almost guarantee) that there had to be some of those boys who weren’t happy to have a teenage girl walking through while they were changing or showering. Plus a situation could have happened that could have been dangerous for me. Anyways I just wanted to get this off my chest, I feel guilt but know I was just a teenager and didn’t understand the implications of what I was being asked to do.

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Look…
I don’t care who you are.
Naked person of opposite sex in front of you?
You’re looking.

Um, I promise you that I make a conscious effort to not look at a naked girl in front of me...
Lots of gay men and women would intentionally avert their eyes from a naked person of the opposite sex.

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Nothing wrong with a towel girl in the boys' shower. Hopefully she didn't get any harassment from the guys. I'm guessing that she was in a good position to watch the guys shower.

I don't remember any harassment, but like I said, I was more focused on not getting a boner. But really, I don't think there was any harassment, especially since we were freshmen and she was a Junior. That said, I could very well have been oblivious.

Meanwhile, my gay ass who was so far in the closet that a faun was serving me tea would be so happy that she was there, because then if I got a boner from seeing the other guys showering, I could blame it on the fact that I had thought of her looking at me, totally not gay, just enjoy girls looking at me.

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Meanwhile, my gay ass who was so far in the closet that a faun was serving me tea would be so happy that she was there, because then if I got a boner from seeing the other guys showering, I could blame it on the fact that I had thought of her looking at me, totally not gay, just enjoy girls looking at me.

Ha! And sorry you had to be so far in the closet. Doesn't sound easy. Hope you're out by now!

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Meanwhile, my gay ass who was so far in the closet that a faun was serving me tea would be so happy that she was there, because then if I got a boner from seeing the other guys showering, I could blame it on the fact that I had thought of her looking at me, totally not gay, just enjoy girls looking at me.

Ha! And sorry you had to be so far in the closet. Doesn't sound easy. Hope you're out by now!

Oh yeah, I've been fully out for 17 years now.
Fortunately I was wrong that I would lose friends when they found out.
Fortunately I was mostly wrong that my family would reject me when I finally came out.
Unfortunately I was absolutely right that my mother would never actually accept it. My mother was also an emotionally abusive narcissist, so I'm not sure why I ever cared about her acceptance, but then again, I only this year actually was able to successfully draw a boundary and stick to it, so I guess it makes sense. I was 5 the first time that she told me that as the only son of an only son, the survival of the family name was entirely my responsibility and should be my highest priority. It was my duty to the family to get married and have children, specifically sons. That she felt bad for my uncle who had failed as a man because he was the only son of the generation and he only had daughters (she's never told him that to his face). Oh, she absolutely was not going to be okay with me being gay, because that means no marriage or children (this was obviously before marriage equality became law of the land in the US).
The very first thing she did when I came out was attempt to gaslight me into actually being straight. "Are you sure that this isn't just a phase" "can't you just keep looking for the right woman that will work for you" and "but you always said you wanted a family" (which, two things, no, you always said I wanted a family, and just because the family I want doesn't look exactly like the one you want for me doesn't mean I don't want one). She at least put on a mask of acceptance, mainly because I think she knew she didn't have much of a choice. From the beginning she hated the man who is now my husband, and honestly I think it is a combination of him being proof that it definitely isn't just a phase and the fact that he encourages me to stand up to her. She hates my therapist for the same reason, she has given me the strength to draw a boundary and enforce it.
We are in the process of going no(ish) contact. My son does genuinely love her, and as much as it hurts me to see him love her knowing what she's done to me, I'm not going to take her away from him, so long as she doesn't start manipulating him in abusive ways like she did to me... The first sign that she is manipulating him will be the last time she ever sees him. I know that would be incredibly painful for my son, but in the long run, it is better than allowing her to plant a time bomb in him. So, not in a great place right now, but we're getting to a better place.
I'm sorry for kind of hijacking the thread, but I wanted to answer your question.
So, anyway, back on the original topic, I actually fully believe that the girls were capable of keeping things appropriate. If I, as a gay man, can stay appropriate while in a locker room surrounded by naked men, I'm sure that they, as straight girls, can do the same.

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Meanwhile, my gay ass who was so far in the closet that a faun was serving me tea would be so happy that she was there, because then if I got a boner from seeing the other guys showering, I could blame it on the fact that I had thought of her looking at me, totally not gay, just enjoy girls looking at me.

Ha! And sorry you had to be so far in the closet. Doesn't sound easy. Hope you're out by now!

Oh yeah, I've been fully out for 17 years now.

BTW, there was a guy who was a manager and he was gay. He wasn't out at the time, but he had told me. I never saw him sneak a peek, but I never asked.

[PantsDownFun]

Ha! And sorry you had to be so far in the closet. Doesn't sound easy. Hope you're out by now!

Oh yeah, I've been fully out for 17 years now.

BTW, there was a guy who was a manager and he was gay. He wasn't out at the time, but he had told me. I never saw him sneak a peek, but I never asked.

I never intentionally took a peek, at least not at any time when it wouldn't be expected to be looking (if a guy is busy helicoptering his dick, one, lucky him, two, it's obvious he wants people to look), but one sees what one sees.

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Oh yeah, I've been fully out for 17 years now.

BTW, there was a guy who was a manager and he was gay. He wasn't out at the time, but he had told me. I never saw him sneak a peek, but I never asked.

I never intentionally took a peek, at least not at any time when it wouldn't be expected to be looking (if a guy is busy helicoptering his dick, one, lucky him, two, it's obvious he wants people to look), but one sees what one sees.

I wish I could’ve had things like that in my life. Instead, I got shuffled off to having to change by myself because the school couldn’t legally expel me for being (at the time) gay, but they could certainly punish me for it by not letting me change with the other guys at all. It almost made me regret being out at all, especially as it was only the teachers that had an issue with it, not my classmates.

(Now I’m wishing I could’ve just asked the classmates to photograph the things I should’ve gotten to see, but they also had a very strict no-phones policy.)