Girls don't need modesty: Lexie's Sacrifice (Part 2 - 12/3)

[Mental_Shifter]

This is the kind of story I check this site for.

[Lisa_The_Brave_12]

Good start. Though I must ask, did you have to forcibly reject the clinical terms for female anatomy (e.g. vagina, vulva, etc...) in order to emphasize the slang (e.g. kitty)? For me, the slang just feels a lot dirtier and trashier (not cuter), and vagina just sounds more appealing to me.

Also, this is not a complaint, just an interesting observation: I notice that you and SuperEvil both seem to love ages 13 - 15 for the protagonists of your stories. I'm not condemning you for it or anything. When it comes to fictional stories, I am not one of those people who cares so much about age, or who insists that the character must be 18+. However, I still just can't help but notice that you guys just seem to love that middle school to early highschool age range. Do you guys dislike using older teenagers, college aged students, or adults?

A girl's sexual development usually starts around the age of 10. Most girls enter puberty between the ages of 10-13. This time is such a wonderful one to explore because girls then start to become self-conscious about their bodies and begin to explore themselves sexually. Nudity becomes something shameful while the girl's own body begins to change. Puberty makes their minds go mush from being flooded by hormones and their emotions are out of control.

Being exposed naked publicly, and I think this is true for most people, is a horribly embarrassing idea. But a preteen/young teenage girl is far less confident and sure about herself, thus making such a scenario multiple times more interesting.

Older teenagers and young adults don't struggle with their self image quite as much anymore. They are too self-assured to get embarrassed easily. Not saying a story involving older girls or women can't be interesting or anything, but the element of youth is the strongest and most pronounced in early human develolment.

[superevil7]

Out of all the SuperEvil and Perseus stories that I have read, I don't think that I have read a single one where the main character is 16 or older.

I've written quite a few, but they don't seem to be my most popular.

[perseus]

Also, this is not a complaint, just an interesting observation: I notice that you and SuperEvil both seem to love ages 13 - 15 for the protagonists of your stories. I'm not condemning you for it or anything. When it comes to fictional stories, I am not one of those people who cares so much about age, or who insists that the character must be 18+. However, I still just can't help but notice that you guys just seem to love that middle school to early highschool age range. Do you guys dislike using older teenagers, college aged students, or adults?

Sanford7727 and Lisa_The_Brave_12 pretty much summed up why I write the ages that I do. I feel like its the best age range for ENF. I also feel like "why not?" there are hundreds, if not thousands of ENF type stories that center around collage age/young adult. I only know of two sites that allow the age ranges I write. I really do appreciate you reading my stories, but if the age of my ENF character make you uncomfortable, there are tons of great writers that write what you are looking for.

[perseus]

Thank you all for your kind words! I was hoping that this story had some legs and it seems like it just might. As I said before, realism is not super important with this one, so some of the scenarios might seem a little crazy.

I have to admit, I'm pretty disappointed that the word "kitty" is so disliked. With this story, I really wanted Lexie and her family to not use the word pussy at all. I was hoping that kitty would sound cuter. I pretty much committed her to the word, but I guess I'll see how it goes from here.

But that aside, I'm happy you all are enjoying it! I have some big plans for Lexie, and Emma too.

[SixPathsKeyblader]

Also, this is not a complaint, just an interesting observation: I notice that you and SuperEvil both seem to love ages 13 - 15 for the protagonists of your stories. I'm not condemning you for it or anything. When it comes to fictional stories, I am not one of those people who cares so much about age, or who insists that the character must be 18+. However, I still just can't help but notice that you guys just seem to love that middle school to early highschool age range. Do you guys dislike using older teenagers, college aged students, or adults?

Sanford7727 and Lisa_The_Brave_12 pretty much summed up why I write the ages that I do. I feel like its the best age range for ENF. I also feel like "why not?" there are hundreds, if not thousands of ENF type stories that center around collage age/young adult. I only know of two sites that allow the age ranges I write. I really do appreciate you reading my stories, but if the age of my ENF character make you uncomfortable, there are tons of great writers that write what you are looking for.

Oh no, I'm not uncomfortable with your usage of this age range. I was just noting this more as a curious observation rather than a complaint.

[SixPathsKeyblader]

Thank you all for your kind words! I was hoping that this story had some legs and it seems like it just might. As I said before, realism is not super important with this one, so some of the scenarios might seem a little crazy.

I have to admit, I'm pretty disappointed that the word "kitty" is so disliked. With this story, I really wanted Lexie and her family to not use the word pussy at all. I was hoping that kitty would sound cuter. I pretty much committed her to the word, but I guess I'll see how it goes from here.

But that aside, I'm happy you all are enjoying it! I have some big plans for Lexie, and Emma too.

To be honest, it's not even specifically the word "kitty" that is the problem (at least for me). It's more so the vehement rejection of the proper terms (vagina or vulva) that I find so off putting. Take this line from the chapter for example:

“I don’t like that word [vagina].” I pouted. “It feels like we are talking about health class.”

In the above line, you specifically went out of your way to have Lexie reject the clinical terms in order to force in slang. You could have just had Lexie and her brothers saying "kitty" or "pussy" or whatever from the start, and I would have just read through it and thought nothing of it. I would have simply assumed that this is how they usually referred to the anatomy.

However, by going out of your way to have them actively use the word "vagina" first, only to have the characters specifically acknowledge and reject the word in favor of slang, just comes off as off putting to me (not enough to repel me from the story as a whole, mind you).

It was the same in one of the Naked in School stories where the character of Beth Finch said something along the lines of:

"I was walking around with my p... pussy out. See? I can say the word".

She was clearly a more proper and well mannered girl, and she clearly wasn't used to using the slang term for female genitals. That's why it irked me that the author had her act like it was absolutely mandatory to use the slang, even if against her will. Like...why? Why so forcefully insistent on the slang?

To me personally, the slang does not sound cuter. It sounds more like a person is trying too hard to emphasize the erotic nature of the content. When you go out of your way to specifically reject the proper terms in order to forcefully insert the slang, it's like you are having the story scream "Hey look at me. I'm a sex story". To me, that actually detracts a little from the appeal of the story, and it even detracts a little from my feelings and care about the character(s).

It's like this: Which do you get more enjoyment out of? Seeing a stripper or porn star naked and shaking everything they've got, or seeing an innocent classmate or neighbor naked because of a genuine accident or a wardrobe malfunction or a genuine set of circumstances that were beyond her control?

For me, it's the latter. When a girl is blatantly trying to be explicitly sexual and vulgar, it is a turnoff for me. I prefer genuine natural ENF and EUF.

Stories are kind of like that too. When you go out of your way to emphasize the slang, even though Leslie has not at all been implied to be any kind of slut or exhibitionist, it still gives me that "Look at me, I'm sexual" vibe that makes Leslie feel a little "cheaper" if you know what I mean.

I believe that a story or situation can be "sexy" without necessarily being explicitly "sexual" and without emphasizing the fact that the story is erotic. This is also the same reason that I don't think that you and SuperEvil's stories really have to emphasize masturbation and how horny and wet the girls are at every possible moment.

Simply having a girl walking around naked, and having people around her react to it, and perhaps having the girl herself react (or perhaps monologue to the readers about how she feels emotionally) is sexy enough for me. I don't need her to orgasm a river or have everyone touching her loins every 5 seconds.

[superevil7]

To me personally, the slang does not sound cuter. It sounds more like a person is trying too hard to emphasize the erotic nature of the content. When you go out of your way to specifically reject the proper terms in order to forcefully insert the slang, it's like you are having the story scream "Hey look at me. I'm a sex story". To me, that actually detracts a little from the appeal of the story, and it even detracts a little from my feelings and care about the character(s).

I won't speak for Perseus, but I will say that, for me, growing up, the first terms I learned were the more "cutsie" terms, like peepee, boobies, kitty, because that's what my parents used with me. It wasn't until the formal setting of a health class at school that I learned the official terms, penis, vagina (and much later, vulva), or breasts, and even then, I continued to think about them in cutsie names because that was what I was used to, and I was still a kid. Then, later on, I learned the adult terms, like cock, tits, and pussy. So, to me, there isn't just slang terms or official terms, I see it as 3 catagories, cutsie terms younger people would use, adult terms adults use when they are being sexy with each other, and medical terms.

Edited to add: The medical terms would feel more "dirty" to me growing up than the cutsie terms, just as the adult terms would feel more dirty to me than either the medical terms or the cutsie terms.

[Lisa_The_Brave_12]

Kids can be pretty diverse in their usage of terminology. Depending on their upbringing and social environment they learn different terms for sex organs at different times in their lifes.

Some kids might only know the cutsie words while others know them all and use only the nastiest ones in their daily conversations.

I'd say most kids nowadays know at least some "dirty" words but will use the cutsie variants in front of their parents while they cuss the forbidden ones when they are with their peers.

The word "kitty" I feel would mostly be used by younger kids as they are too innocent to know more adult words or are too afraid to use them because they are considered bad.

A character like in this story, who comes across as very sexually inexperienced and well-behaved, is perfectly believable to prefer using cutsie words like kitty.

Also, who knows how her character develops over time? Maybe as she makes more sexual experiences, our heroine will learn the joys of using more adult terms occasionally... we'll see. I'm very curious where this will lead!

[Somebody]

Yeah, everyone's individual upbringing is going to affect this. For example, I never heard kitty whatsoever in this context outside of erotica. Hell, I never heard pussy until I was 13. Just about every term for lady parts has some negative connotation for me. I don't wanna even begin to talk about how babyish 'cunny' sounds. Or like tinkle or trickle. The majority of these I have only heard on asstr, and many were being infantile on purpose.
The theme of whether or not to use slang is always a big part of these stories, but... I have really warmed up to 'vulva' just because it's the only one that's really accurate. Vagina is, you know, only the hole. And I'm the kind of pedantic nerd who cares about that.
Cunt is right out. Twat sounds simultaneously too nasty and too old timey. Quim is positively quaint. And I feel like nobody but me even knows about 'gotch'. To say nothing of clunge, snatch, axe wound, spam purse, box, slot... Minge is okay once in a while.. but really, you can't win. The most pleasant thing I can think of would just be "v." Or 'her sex.'

Of course it's even worse on the male side of things, because I don't like hearing "d." Dick, cock, none of those are any fun, and penis is just laughable. We seriously need to bring back 'johnson.' And 'manhood'.. Wang is fun, but not really right for a sexy story. But I digress. And see, that doesn't even help girls, because girlhood sounds so clumsy.