CMNF / embarrassed and/or exposed girl scenes in films

[dunbarbarian0]

I Still Hide To Smoke (2016)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=czDI_T7eBAc&ra=m

13:10

In a film that takes place in a bathhouse, in which you see dozens of breasts, the first breasts you can clearly see are the buds of Aliki Kalogirou, who looks to be 11, maybe 12 years old. At the beginning of the scene, she dances to a hard rock song with a family friend, clad in just her white briefs. From the far off shot, it looks like her chest is still flat. Her mother calls her over and it’s revealed why the girl is half naked: her mother is there to wash her hair. The tween girl sits patiently while her mother shampoos her hair as the two women talk to each other.

Soon, the mother taps the girl on the shoulder and the girl stands up. When she does, her developing breasts come in full view of the camera before she’s wrapped in a towel.

I was a little shocked the first time I saw this scene. Films have gotten away with tween girls being topless while having very small bumps that have just begun developing, but not enough that they need to wear any type of bra. My Queen Karo and Pia Piano come to mind. In the case of this girl, when she stands up it’s unmistakeable: the girl’s breasts are growing… and I think it might be a deliberate choice on behalf of the filmmaker. Perhaps she wanted to show a girl who had recently hit puberty and entered the path to womanhood, which is what the film more or less is about.

It makes me wonder how the director handled this scene, how the girl felt knowing her developing upper body would be filmed, and how she feels knowing anyone can access this film and see her shirtless. How did her parents feel? Was it openly acknowledged in advance that she would be filmed half naked? Also, I wonder if I’m wrong about the directors intentions. Puberty can happen quickly, and what if when the girl was cast in the role her chest was flat but when it became time to film the scene her breasts had begun to fill in, and the scene had to proceed with filming.

There are very few examples where a tween girl’s visibly developing breasts were filmed so openly.

[mars357]

I Still Hide To Smoke (2016)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=czDI_T7eBAc&ra=m

13:10

In a film that takes place in a bathhouse, in which you see dozens of breasts, the first breasts you can clearly see are the buds of Aliki Kalogirou, who looks to be 11, maybe 12 years old. At the beginning of the scene, she dances to a hard rock song with a family friend, clad in just her white briefs. From the far off shot, it looks like her chest is still flat. Her mother calls her over and it’s revealed why the girl is half naked: her mother is there to wash her hair. The tween girl sits patiently while her mother shampoos her hair as the two women talk to each other.

Soon, the mother taps the girl on the shoulder and the girl stands up. When she does, her developing breasts come in full view of the camera before she’s wrapped in a towel.

I was a little shocked the first time I saw this scene. Films have gotten away with tween girls being topless while having very small bumps that have just begun developing, but not enough that they need to wear any type of bra. My Queen Karo and Pia Piano come to mind. In the case of this girl, when she stands up it’s unmistakeable: the girl’s breasts are growing… and I think it might be a deliberate choice on behalf of the filmmaker. Perhaps she wanted to show a girl who had recently hit puberty and entered the path to womanhood, which is what the film more or less is about.

It makes me wonder how the director handled this scene, how the girl felt knowing her developing upper body would be filmed, and how she feels knowing anyone can access this film and see her shirtless. How did her parents feel? Was it openly acknowledged in advance that she would be filmed half naked? Also, I wonder if I’m wrong about the directors intentions. Puberty can happen quickly, and what if when the girl was cast in the role her chest was flat but when it became time to film the scene her breasts had begun to fill in, and the scene had to proceed with filming.

There are very few examples where a tween girl’s visibly developing breasts were filmed so openly.

You are right, it feels something fleeting and precious got captured there. Would love to know how she felt about it then and after people saw it.

[dunbarbarian0]

Fortress (1985, Australia)

The film is about a group of schoolchildren and their teacher fleeing from gunmen who want to hold them hostage for ransom.

Toward the middle of the film the group has fled into a cave and the schoolteacher, played by Rachel Ward, swims through an underground tunnel where she finds a way out on the other side. Before doing so, in the presence of her oldest male student, she takes off everything except her underwear including her bra. The look on the kid's face is like like wtf is happening right now and he turns away out of respect. When she re-emerges he gets a quick look at her breasts as she dries off, although no nudity is filmed so it's unclear what the actor got to see if anything.

When they return with the rest of the kids she tells them that they all have to take off their clothes, and all of the kids do so down to their underwear. There is a point where the eldest girl Narelle, played by Rebecca Rigg aged 17 during filming, is about to take off her undershirt but realizes this will leave her topless, and she is the only girl in the group with fully developed breasts. The schoolteacher notices the situation as she's about to take off her own bra, as Narelle looks to the teacher with eyes silently pleading for mercy. She realizes if she takes off her bra then Narelle would have to bare her breasts to the eyes of the boys, and decides to leave her bra on out of concern for the girl's modesty. This is visibly to the relief of Narelle, who is clearly shy enough to be seen in the undershirt, and probably to the disappointment of the boys, at least the bigger ones... although in their skimpy underwear any erections would have been very noticeable, and in their scantily clad state I'm almost surprised nobody became aroused, just on pure hormones in the presence of a girl in her underwear at that age.

It's a cute scene, although what I find interesting is what it doesn't acknlowledge, namely the three younger girls of the group who are the true subject of this post. The actresses are Anna Crawford (age 7-8), Asher Keddie (age 10-11), and Beth Buchanan (age 12-13). Particularly the two older tween girls were put in a very awkward situation for this scene: they not only had to take off their clothes, but they had to be shirtless in front of the other boys. While watching the scene it seems like Anna Crawford is too young to think this is a big deal (she is one of the first of all the kids to be ready for the swim), but if you focus your attention on the two older girls they take their time undressing and position themselves toward the back of the group.

In fact, as this scene goes by you start to see less and less of Beth Buchanan to the point that when the montage of them all swimming begins, she is the only kid not filmed as a part of it and the only kid not filmed as part of the group on the other side, before she reappears with the group again fully clothed when they exit the cave. It's easiest to spot in the 720p/1080p quality of the film obviously, but at 40:05 of the film you can see her in the center background on her knees behind a supply bag the group has been using. It appears she is shirtless at this point but again, she's behind a bag and you only fully see her face.

At 41:07 when the teacher returns to the schoolchildren, Asher Keddie is now shirtless and standing in her underwear, nipples full view of the camera. Even though her chest is still flat, at her age you would think she must have felt discomfort with this. Beth Buchanan is still where she was before, on her knees behind the bag. At 41:10 the bag is moved which briefly reveals her left breast bud, confirming that she had to take off her shirt and bare her developing breasts to everyone present, including the man directing the film Arch Nicholson.

I almost feel gaslit by this scene. It directly points out that there's a girl who doesn't want to be topless around boys her age, but outright ignores that there are girls who aren't old enough to wear anything under their shirts, so when they had to take them off they must have felt half naked. Just because a girl doesn't have breast buds yet doesn't mean her being shirtless around other boys inconsequential. It's admittedly weird that it's not the same, but it's just not the same as a boy being shirtless. It was almost certainly uncomfortable for Asher Keddie, but the thing that blows my mind is that Beth Buchanan had to be shirtless despite the fact her breasts had begun developing. When Beth Buchanon (and I mean the actress, not her character) was about to take her shirt off in front of those boys was there anyone she could look to and silently plead for mercy, so she wouldn't have to expose her growing breasts in front of a bunch of boys who no doubt were excited to have a look? Couldn't anyone have found her an undershirt? Were people reluctant to acknowledge what was happening and advocate on behalf of the poor girl? It's almost because her breasts are merely bumps then no regard should be given for Beth Buchanan's modesty, and I think the same is true for Asher Keddie even though her breasts hadn't yet started growing. The only girl in the group whose modesty was appropriately acknowledged was the 17 year old with fully developed breasts, as if that's the requirement to have your feelings considered regarding who you're comfortable with seeing your bare chest as a girl. More or less I think the same for boys, but obviously it's different for boys. Seems like it's about what other people are comfortable with seeing, or what's 'decent', rather than what the child actors were comfortable with other people seeing of their own bodies. It's different if a younger girl like Anna Crawford is comfortable with the whole thing, but I get the feeling that the tween girls were not allowed to advocate for their own modesty because, whatever about their own feelings, other people determined on their behalf that they had nothing to hide.

I am curious about why Beth Buchanan disappeared from this scene, and how much it had to do with the fact that filming her shirtless would mean her budding breasts would be clearly visible. Was it more from her objections, or objections from the production team who realized that she was not as much of a little girl as was being portrayed. Perhaps it was both. It's unbelievable enough that a girl Asher Keddie's age would have been comfortable doing this scene shirtless around boys her age, and her chest was as flat as the boys standing next to her. Just imagine all these kids at the beach together. As I understand it it's actually legal for women and girls to be topless on Australian beaches, but I would confidently guess that even a girl Anna Crawford's age would not have her chest exposed in most cases.

The link to a 1080p version of the film is below:

https://ok.ru/video/9731677751897

Beth Buchanan had a long acting career before settling into a career as a social worker, and Asher Keddie remained a successful actress in Australia on stage, on television, and in film. This appears to have been the only film Anna Crawford ever appeared in.

[gunairre]

The movie Mords pas, on t'aime! (1976) has some intresting cmnf/enm moments

It opens with the two leads nude skinny dipping. Must of been quite the icebreaker for them.

Then there's a scene where the male lead looks into a group of naked girls in the shower that might of been embarrassing but if the girls saw the movie they'd see his small penis too.

At around 2:57 is she trying to cover her vagina with both hands or is she just casually standing like that?

Probably casually, she looks way too comfortable being naked to cover herself like that

[tom6173]

Thanks dunbarbarian0 for your post about the 1985 movie Fortress.

Not as good as the scene(s) already mentioned, at 17:28 one of the kidnappers tries to lift the teacher's skirt. Nothing is exposed, but it is a nice lead-up to the scene previously described.

The film is based on a book. When I was in early high school, we read the book in English class. I usually didn't like reading the books that were normally prescribed in English class, but this one, which included the description of the teacher stripping in front of the second oldest male student when they first found the waterway out of the cave, including the little flowers on her white panties, was of course a notable exception.

A couple of years later when the movie came out, I couldn't wait to see it. I must have watched the scene previously described as intently as the original poster. And was always disappointed that we didn't get to see what panties the character Leanne (Beth Buchanan) was wearing.

The book (and therefore the film too), was based on a real kidnapping from the early 1970s. At the time of reading the book and seeing the film, I wondered whether the cave stripping took place in real life. Nowadays we have wikipedia, and its description of the real kidnapping sounds like the cave/swimming/stripping did not happen in real life. Plus it also says that in the real kidnapping, all the students were female.

[ChuckFin84]

I have been enjoying this topic, a few i think need mentioning are The Parent Trap with Lindsay Lohan. First notable situation is a timid quiet boy somehow ends up at the all girls camp. This would be embarrassing for many, but I would have loved it as a young boy. It turns out well for him though. The twin girls, both played by Lindsay, are playing poker, one of the sisters is out of money and decides to bet her clothes. Shoe loses the hand and has to skinnydip in the lake. The scene is dark, but you can see her silhouette. As it is an all girls camp it shouldn't be terrible, but the boy is certainly lucky to be the only boy blessed with the view of a cute girl completely naked. I believe the othe girls steal her clothes and it is assumed she has to return to her cabin naked.

Fly away home. A young teen or preteen girl has recently been forced to live with her dad. She is not happy about the arrangement. In one scene she is in the shower and sprays herself in the eyes with soap and screams. Her dads friend rushes with him to the bathroom and the door is thrown open leaving her fully exposed. Of course nothing is shown, but the next scene shows her crying to her dads girlfriend who is unsuccessfuly trying to convince her that he didn't see anything.

The Amazing Panda Adventure. There is a scene with the main character, a boy, and a native Chinese girl, both around 10yo. They both find leeches on themselves and freak out. They pull all of their clothes off trying to rid themselves of the leeches. They look at each other and realize they are naked and hide behind bushes I think. Then they have to decide which will expose themselves to the other to retrieve their clothes. Eventually the boy runs out from behind the bush and you can see the girl staring at his business.

None of these show anything, but they are fun anyway.

[babzo]

One more for the group

Punani - A short film where a young girl discovers there's more to life than Bible-readings and plays with Barbies

https://vimeo.com/98729273
3:00-4:30

[BlueDragmire]

Fortress was on Showtime a lot back in the day and the teacher swimming nearly naked while her male student got to see quite a lot was a big impression on me.

Shame she got to keep her clothes, have that teacher run around topless or naked rest of the movie plz.

[Freesub]

Fortress was on Showtime a lot back in the day and the teacher swimming nearly naked while her male student got to see quite a lot was a big impression on me.

Shame she got to keep her clothes, have that teacher run around topless or naked rest of the movie plz.

I imagine the teacher going topless would necessitate the female student also going topless, and the director simply didn't want to deal with the headache of showing underage boobs.

[Somebody]

I imagine the teacher going topless would necessitate the female student also going topless, and the director simply didn't want to deal with the headache of showing underage boobs.

Nobody cared about that in 1985 Australia. Not even 2000 Australia. Young girls still regularly ran around topless all the time. The teacher being topless is what would have pegged the rating. Obviously Australia has completely 180'd and then some, in the intervening time.