Women in Authority Walking in on You, When You Were in the Nude

[Xirix7]

There is a recurring discussion here about something I experienced so I know it is a real thing, but I’ve also been shocked to learn that women in authority have pushed the bounds of this, and there are some places that still have the vestiges of construction that allowed for this kind of outcome.

I went to a swim school where the wall of separation from the people using the pool and walking around the pool area was very immediate to the changing room. By that, I mean you walk into the area and Bang! - - - you are confronted with nakedness, and because you’re dealing with swimming, you’re often dealing with total nudity.

I remember this kind of set up and I equally remember mothers and female staff members having no problem with walking into the area where younger boys were changing and speaking with them regardless of the boy’s or multiple boys’ state of undress, even if totally naked. 9 out of 10 times their purpose was to find out if X was around or tell certain boys they had to get a move on, or if it a female staff member, she was looking for a certain student so she could begin her class.

This has been mentioned by a few others in private messages to me, and because of what a guy I knew shared with me, I wanted to use the discussion board to see if others out there remember such swim schools that had this sort of set up.

But in his case what he shared with me was an incredible humiliation that no one seemed to care about having happened to him and his friend. I knew the guy who told me about this but not the other guy. This mainly has to do with certain women in authority who didn’t seem to understand or care about when a boy stopped being little and began being thought of as old enough – due to body development – that he shouldn’t be seen in the nude by random women exerting authority over them.

This happened to him when he was 13, and though I had never been to this particular place, I understood it to be real because I knew the layout of swim schools and such places. If you went to a private school that didn’t have a swimming pool, you went to an off-site swim school for competitions. And very few middle schools had swimming pools use for competition. Plenty of high schools had them and middle schools that were at one time high schools had them. Private schools could go either way. This guy’s school didn’t have a pool, and they all went to one of these private swim schools that had a pool with plastic floats and ropes that made lanes. The areas of showers and changing were really without any real rules when it came to adults in authority mixing with young adult student competitors.

The guy who told me about this was with his friend and the two were 13 at the time and had just beat their competitor school in some swim event. They were changing out of their swim trunks into to their street clothes and when they were stark naked, the woman who was the coach of the team he and his friend just beat, came right into the inside area and gave them instructions about cleaning up the area where their stuff was on the outside bench and telling them they wouldn’t have won if a certain other student had shown up. The woman just stood there giving them admonishments while they were completely naked and he knew this woman was taking in the nature of his penis and its development. He had pubic hair and had definitely developed from boy to young man, and she’s learned that even for a 13-year-old, he has a small penis. Not to mention she also got to see his bare butt and full musculature and everything about him as a male. He was humiliated to his core and there was nothing anyone would do about it. He talked about it afterward, but no one was on his side, and he got the vibe that others just wanted him to forget about it and mentally move on.

Has anyone experienced something similar at an age older than 10 years where they were definitely into their development, and their penis was past childhood? Or, if any women answer this, were you aware of something of this kind happening to a boy you knew? Also, this discussion question does not have to be centered solely on a swim school area or that kind of thing. It could be at a private home or school or any place where women in authority as part of what they did, walked anywhere they chose. I'm also curious whether there were even women in authority who acknowledged the guy's nakedness and didn't care, as they continued their interaction with him as though he was supposed to accept their being in front of him as part of life, regardless of his feeling humiliated.

[Jonjon2]

I had forgotten about this situation until reading this and it has brought back the memories.
I was about 14/15 at the time and had not learnt to swim (due to changing schools etc.) and it was decided that I should have some private tuition. A local private swimming school offered such lessons. It was a small pool operated by a couple with just a few additional staff (mainly a couple of cleaners). The instructor was the wife of the couple who owned the school.
I was to attend once a week after school. I cycled the few miles from my school to the swimming school and arrived about 5 minutes before the start of the first lesson. I was shown to the male changing room and told to shower and then go through to the pool. This was a good idea as I was quite sweaty after the cycling. The changing room was just a large room with benches around the edges and hooks to hang your clothes and towel. Off to one side were 3 shower heads. This area was completely open to the room. When I arrived most of the hooks had been taken but there was one vacant hook along one of the long walls (probably about 4 hooks with clothes on each side of this hook).
I quickly undressed and hung my clothes on the hook, leaving my towel and trunks in the bag which I managed to hook on top of my clothes and then put my school bag with my books in, on top of that bag.
I then went into the shower area and turned on one of the showers. I remember being surprised that the water was quite cold but still got under the water and found the shampoo container provided and started washing my hair and then the rest of my body to get rid of the sweat. I then heard sounds of young boys, shouting and laughing. I hadn't realised that there was a class for 4 or 5 year old boys starting to learn how to swim. Their class had finished and so they were returning to the changing room to get dressed. But they were accompanied by their mothers who had to help them get dressed.
I was mortified as I was naked in the shower. I think they didn't really see me to start with as they were concentrating on getting their sons dried and changed and of course there was no problem in the young boys being naked in front of their mothers or the other mothers. I had to get from the shower to where my swimming trunks were and I tried to walk whilst covering my genitals. I was a late developer and so didn't have a lot to hide and very little pubic hair. When I got to where my trunks were it was between 2 young mothers who were sat on the bench looking out, directly at me. One of their sons was standing on the bench in front of my hanging clothes and bags. His mother had already taken off his trunks and so he was standing looking at me and was not concerned that he was naked. I quickly explained that my swimming trunks were behind him. His mother asked me to help him down off of the bench so that I could get my bag. This, of course, meant that I had to use both hands to help him down leaving me completly exposed, just a few inches from his mother. I could feel the eyes of the 2 closed women to me staring at my groin but there was nothing I could do. The little boy thought this was a good game and wouldn't let go of my hands and so when he was on the ground he pulled me around and was making quite a bit of noise which attracted the others to turn around and look at me.
I eventually managed to make him let go and returned to take my school bag off the hook and then the bag with my swimming trunks in. I retrieved them as quickly as I could (probably in a few seconds but it seemed like hours) and put them on and went out into the pool.

[Dormouse]

Not quite the same. My secondary school in the UK was new. I was one of the first pupils there.

The gym was symmetrical, with doors on one wall, on the left going to the stairs up to the boys' changing room, the right to the girls. All the doors in the school had the same design, including a glass panel. After a while, glass was blocked out with cardboard. It was some time later I realised this was because if you crouched behind the door you could look up into the changing rooms. (I was 11 at the time, and such things didn't interest me,)

[lovestosplooge]

Not quite the same. My secondary school in the UK was new. I was one of the first pupils there.

The gym was symmetrical, with doors on one wall, on the left going to the stairs up to the boys' changing room, the right to the girls. All the doors in the school had the same design, including a glass panel. After a while, glass was blocked out with cardboard. It was some time later I realised this was because if you crouched behind the door you could look up into the changing rooms. (I was 11 at the time, and such things didn't interest me,)

I remember there was a similar setup at a school camp I went to. There was a hole in the wall that lead into one of the girl's shower stalls. When it was discovered, they covered it with cardboard. One of the boys knocked down the cardboard one night and carved the hole bigger.

[EverythingOff]

I posted this true story a few days ago about girl "team managers" in the boys locker room:
viewtopic.php?p=44063#p44063

I followed up with another version of it here:
viewtopic.php?p=44323#p44323

Feel free to comment or be in touch about either, if you like.

[Xirix7]

Jonjon2
What you wrote about is exactly why I put up this discussion topic. Is there a psychological break in some of these women who don't say to themselves, "I shouldn't be here. I realize I'M the one who's trespassing on the area, so I should alter my circumstance, now that I know there is a young man in the changing and shower area." But they don't. Also, IMO, women in such a situation are going to stare right at your lower torso in their interaction with you when you are naked. During those two minutes and you having to use both hands and because of that, fully show yourself to two of the women, totally nude, at 14 / 15, did you feel completely humiliated?

Dormouse
I wrote about something similar when I was in high school. Girls - usually 10th and 11th grade girl - signed up to be aides for the physical education teachers and the male phys ed teachers wanted them in the boys p.e. office to do paperwork and stuff related to their roll books and run errands. They weren't creepy nor did they take advantage of being where they were. Just like in your situation, the wall of glass between their office and the locker room - made of glass for the purpose of supervision - was covered with posters of one kind or another. They were the kinds of posters you would expect to see in a phys ed department. If one of the girl aides was so inclined, she could have used the spaces between the posters to look into the locker room, but none of them ever did.

EverythingOff
I think your write ups were part of the background that inspired me to bring up this discussion topic. Because of my own experience at such a place and what happened to the guy I knew that I wrote about, and because of what others wrote here, yourself included, and for example Jonjon2's contribution, I got the impression that I'm not alone in this thing that's on my mind about adult women seemingly uncaring about their placing themselves in boy's naked areas and even interacting with them. This, "I'm here for my child. Oh, you happen to be here as well and because of circumstances, I get to see you in the nude and learn all about how you're hung?!? Oh well, sucks to be you. You'll get over it." I'm going to read or re-read your two write ups and comment on them here. Thank you!!

[Xirix7]

EverythingOff
In your thoughts about what went through the mind of Madison, as kind a girl as she was, you said you sensed she was telegraphing to you the notion that she now knew everything about your naked body and had taken from you all of your intimacy. IMO, that's the essence of naked humiliation - a taking of what only you are supposed to know about: size, shape, hang of your penis - even its erection - there are some girls who want a guy to know that this has been taken from you by her. Thank you for writing about that. My discussion topic here also touches upon a similar aspect: women older than fully developed boys, letting the boys know by their entering the changing and shower area, that they "own" the boys and are taking everything from them and there's nothing they can do about it. The end result is that these types of women only feel more empowered, at the expense of your intimacy. I wonder whether inside of their minds, they're laughing at the boy in the situation - even in an innocent circumstance like the one Jonjon2 wrote about.

[Jonjon2]

Yes I did feel humiliated. To make it worse, the mother on the other side of my clothes saw my school uniform hanging up and recognised the school and started to talk to me saying that one of her neighbours went to that school and she wondered if I knew him as she thought he must be about the same age as me - she said that, whilst staring directly at my penis. She said that he was in the 2nd year. That was 2 years below me. I must have gone bright red at that as I said that I was nearly 15. I suppose the effect of the cold water shower and my embarrassment had led to my penis and testicles shrinking so that I looked a lot younger. She apologised and said I should be pleased that I looked younger and shouldn't be embarrassed as I looked like a nice boy who should just enjoy being young. She even called across to one of her friends (another mother) saying that I didn't look 14. Of course this led the others to turn and look at me. They all seemed very nice and none of them made any disparaging comments but were more looking and smiling at me. The impression I had was that they were regarding me in the same way as their 4 and 5 year old sons.

[jllash]

Reading these experiences, it certainly sounds humiliating.

I feel fortunate I never experienced this, the closest was in 6th grade when everyone was being rowdy in the locker room after gym class, our female home room teacher that would sometimes be there to help supervise yelled in to keep it down and hurry up, and gave a warning that she'll come in if we don't. She was obese, early 30s, with large boobs, and ginger hair.
I was always quick to change to minimize my time in underwear and I was fully dressed when she gave another warning that she was coming in (most of the other guys were rowdy and ignored her), she was counting down from 3 loudly and slowly, it was unmistakable so everyone certainly knew she was coming in. She walked in and yelled at the kids being rowdy, restoring order to the locker room, but nobody was undressed.

Reading the topic title, the first thought that came to my mind was the military. It's been my understanding that modesty isn't a value during training and I wonder if anyone has stories of women in authority seeing guys naked. I've heard stories of situations where a guy doesn't get his uniform on in time, or is in the middle of a shower when a random inspection happens, and has to stand with arms at his sides at attention, sometimes made to complete the task at hand as he is, or even continue with the next task without getting a chance to get dressed. Sometimes that being running drills that take the whole day.
Sometimes even leaders intentionally scheduling when women will be around at the same time they have their troops strip naked to add to their humiliation.

Strange I can't find any cases of these stories when I search for them now, besides this is one video I saw about it https://www.larsgpetersson.com/wp-conte ... ldiers.mp4

[Freesub]

Reading these experiences, it certainly sounds humiliating.

I feel fortunate I never experienced this, the closest was in 6th grade when everyone was being rowdy in the locker room after gym class, our female home room teacher that would sometimes be there to help supervise yelled in to keep it down and hurry up, and gave a warning that she'll come in if we don't. She was obese, early 30s, with large boobs, and ginger hair.
I was always quick to change to minimize my time in underwear and I was fully dressed when she gave another warning that she was coming in (most of the other guys were rowdy and ignored her), she was counting down from 3 loudly and slowly, it was unmistakable so everyone certainly knew she was coming in. She walked in and yelled at the kids being rowdy, restoring order to the locker room, but nobody was undressed.

Reading the topic title, the first thought that came to my mind was the military. It's been my understanding that modesty isn't a value during training and I wonder if anyone has stories of women in authority seeing guys naked. I've heard stories of situations where a guy doesn't get his uniform on in time, or is in the middle of a shower when a random inspection happens, and has to stand with arms at his sides at attention, sometimes made to complete the task at hand as he is, or even continue with the next task without getting a chance to get dressed. Sometimes that being running drills that take the whole day.
Sometimes even leaders intentionally scheduling when women will be around at the same time they have their troops strip naked to add to their humiliation.

Strange I can't find any cases of these stories when I search for them now, besides this is one video I saw about it https://www.larsgpetersson.com/wp-conte ... ldiers.mp4

I always wonder in these types of things, would the head trainer/officer ever dare to issue this order to women?

It's all well and good to talk of equality, but I have doubts about whether the women cadets would be expected to strip butt naked in front of their male superiors. That would immediately mean they are receiving special treatment.